Starfire Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 The way BitComet/BitTorrent is designed has an inherent flaw that probably wasn't intentional, but it's the reason why I don't let an upload continue once I finish downloading. I have a finite amount of upload bandwidth. I usually have to cap my UL between 25 and 40 KB/s because if I do not, it will shut down internet browsing on my entire home network. And since my download speed is tied to my upload speed cap, I am actually punished by letting an upload continue when there is no download. It takes upload bandwidth away from the downloads that are in progress and lowers my download speed. So why should I continue to let myself be punished in download speed when I can stop an upload I'm not getting anything else for and allocate that bandwidth to the downloads that are active? Stop tying download speed to upload speed. In trying to stop leechers, you are punishing the people who want to share but can't due to download caps. There has to be another way to discourage leechers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The UnUsual Suspect Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 The fact is that if you don't upload at least 1.0 ratio, then you are a leech. Most of us have much more download bandwidth then upload, so find it necessary to seed after download is finished. This is because the ISPs want the "adverage" user to be happy, and since most people download more then upload, they offer higher download speeds. Some ISPs do offer service with higher upload (at a higher fee). The fact is that users that don't upload what they download are stealing from bit torrent, since that data has to come from somewhere, and it does, it comes from people like me, who seed much more then 1.0. I currently have a ratio over 2.5 on demoniod, and over 12.0 on torrent matrix. I'm not saying every user has to contribute this much to bit torrent, just give what you take. It is really quite simple. When you go to sleep, turn on a torrent to seed. When you get up and head out to work/school, start another... Suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 23, 2006 Author Share Posted September 23, 2006 But you are completely missing the point. I have no problem turning on a seed and letting people download from it. But when I do that, it takes away bandwidth from my downloads that are active, and in turn, I am punished because it lowers my download speed because my upload speed isn't as high as it could be. I'm glad you have so much bandwidth that you can afford to just turn on a seed and have it not affect your other downloads. For me, doing that kills my download speed by at least 25%. If I could do what you suggest, I would in a heartbeat because I like giving back when I can. But I don't like being punished for doing so. There should be some kind of algorithim in BitTorrent/BitComet that can detect when you are seeding and removes the DL/UL ratio cap. And by definition, I am not a leech. A leech takes something without giving anything at all in return. I give what I can. Just because I don't have a crapload of bandwidth like you do doesn't make me a leech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 23, 2006 Author Share Posted September 23, 2006 And not everyone can leave their computer on for days at a time. I am temporarily living in my parents house. She won't let me leave my computer on overnight because it wastes electriciity. Really I don't blame her. It's like BitTorrent/BitComet was designed solely for those people who live in dorms and have unlimited access to electricity and a mega-fast school network. Then to h*** with everyone else's situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The UnUsual Suspect Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 The problem is not with bit torrent protocall, it is the isp's the provide limited bandwidth. You can adjust the upload rate of your torrents so they don't effect your browsing as much. As for leaving your computer on over night, I suggest yoiu power off your monitor, and any other accessories, just leaving computer, modem and/or router running. As for having "Lots of bandwidth" I don't, I just deal with how much I have. I surely didn't mean to insult you in any way, but bit torrent can only work if people upload what they download, its just simple math... Suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted September 23, 2006 Author Share Posted September 23, 2006 And I am just saying that wouldn't it be a simple fix to remove the ul/dl ration cap when someone is seeding is in order. Why should someone be punished for doing what you ask of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarecrow_76 Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 And I am just saying that wouldn't it be a simple fix to remove the ul/dl ration cap when someone is seeding is in order. Why should someone be punished for doing what you ask of them? why not just run one torrent at a time and upload right after you complete the download? doesn't really take that much time, usually about as long as it takes to watch what you have just downloaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The UnUsual Suspect Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 why not just run one torrent at a time and upload right after you complete the download? doesn't really take that much time, usually about as long as it takes to watch what you have just downloaded. Excellant comment.... If you run multiple torrents, you will never get a good download speed anyway, since your upload would be divided among many, many peers. Suspect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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